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this is about china. if chinese want to stop north korea the guys at the border who see the goods going in and out, they can get the flu. the north koreans will get the message and not the chinese are worried about immigrants, they are worried about a unification of korea with seoul as the capital as part of the american security orbit. >> nuclear weapons and 40,000 troops -- >> one of the interesting diplomatic things we tell the chinese, look, we're prepared to negotiate about that. it doesn't have nuclear weapons. another possibility is that we can talk about american troop presence. we can talk about a lot of things. but you have to be willing to use your influence. >> do you think the obama administration has handled this well? >> as painful and unnarcheral for me to say this, i think they handled it. predecessors george w. bush and bill clinton. >> both of whom fell for this -- >> both who fell for this story not understanding this is a regime that doesn't stay bribed. they manufacture crises in ord
this is about china. if chinese want to stop north korea the guys at the border who see the goods going in and out, they can get the flu. the north koreans will get the message and not the chinese are worried about immigrants, they are worried about a unification of korea with seoul as the capital as part of the american security orbit. >> nuclear weapons and 40,000 troops -- >> one of the interesting diplomatic things we tell the chinese, look, we're prepared to negotiate about...
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can cut the dweel china. hae he has a lot of credibility with china. >> reporter: trade with china is booming from $1 billion a few years ago to $5 billion now. if you account for the weapons and minerals, how else is he getting money? >> he's getting it through illicit transactions. >> reporter: officials say north korea is exporting illegal drugs like meth, producing knockoffs of popular cigarettes and pharmaceutical drugs, even counterfeiting good old ben franklin. the fact that u.s. officials say the illicit stuff is still pretty small scale. the north gets a bit more from tourism and foreign investment from places like south korea and china. but, wolf, he says in a country that doesn't get any taxes from its citizens and really is not connected to the international world trading market, it is the minerals and the weapons that are the cash cows keeping kim in power. >> they have global sanctions against him from the u.s. security council but he's getting cash that he needs. chris lawrence, good report. th
can cut the dweel china. hae he has a lot of credibility with china. >> reporter: trade with china is booming from $1 billion a few years ago to $5 billion now. if you account for the weapons and minerals, how else is he getting money? >> he's getting it through illicit transactions. >> reporter: officials say north korea is exporting illegal drugs like meth, producing knockoffs of popular cigarettes and pharmaceutical drugs, even counterfeiting good old ben franklin. the fact...
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they see china as key because china has the pocketbook. china can all of a sudden stop aid to north korea, be a little bit tougher, say listen those fuel shipments are running a little bit late but i think we might be overestimating china's influence here. you've seen china over recent years talk to the north koreans, warning them to not make a nuclear test, not to do a missile test and north korea goes ahead anyway. there is a big debate in china from senior officials up to president saying we're not getting much bang for our buck with north korea so it remains to be seen over the coming weeks and months how cozy china remains with north korea. the u.s. has tried to get china to crack down in the past, hasn't had too much success but china might be reaching its end point. >> elise labott, anna coren thank you. >>> some of kim jong-un's most passionate supporters the young people because they're taught at a young age to pay homage to their new leader and hate america. brian todd met one man who went through as a child. >> reporter: a capti
they see china as key because china has the pocketbook. china can all of a sudden stop aid to north korea, be a little bit tougher, say listen those fuel shipments are running a little bit late but i think we might be overestimating china's influence here. you've seen china over recent years talk to the north koreans, warning them to not make a nuclear test, not to do a missile test and north korea goes ahead anyway. there is a big debate in china from senior officials up to president saying...
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but china doesn't want to see a collapse of this regime. china's frustrated. had enough of kim jong-un and his leadership. pushing the rhetoric to the breaking point. one thing that's also a factor, this young leader doesn't have the relationship with china's leaders, in the past kim jong il, previous dictators in north korea were able to sit down man to man with china. now it's an unknown quantity. >> how much coverage, david s this crisis with north korea getting in china, how are they playing it? >> well, it's getting a lot of coverage here. certainly a little built in china, it's a large border with north korea. north korea has always been the close ally, but unruly cousin of china since the korean war. it's getting a lot of front-page and middle of the page coverage. no open criticism of the military buildup by the united states. it's clearly tas it approval that the united states is getting into the region in a bigger way. and also possibly pointing the finger at north korea. >> wolf? >> david, joining us from beijing. thank you very much. >>> the former
but china doesn't want to see a collapse of this regime. china's frustrated. had enough of kim jong-un and his leadership. pushing the rhetoric to the breaking point. one thing that's also a factor, this young leader doesn't have the relationship with china's leaders, in the past kim jong il, previous dictators in north korea were able to sit down man to man with china. now it's an unknown quantity. >> how much coverage, david s this crisis with north korea getting in china, how are they...
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kerry says the china and u.s. will work together to tone down threats from north korea. >>> former prime minister margaret thatcher's daughter is talking about her grief over losing her mother and thanking well-wishers saying, it's been a tough and tearful week, even for the daughter of the iron lady, end quote. thatcher will be buried wednesday with full military honors. meanwhile, anti-thatcher groups gathered together in central london to, as they put it, celebrate the former prime minister's death. london police say it will monitor the event to ensure it remains peaceful. >>> coming up later on today, two tragic cases involving two teenage girls committing suicide after allegingly being raped. a look at what role social media may have played. >>> at 2:00 eastern, an exclusive interview with former congresswoman gabby giffords.
kerry says the china and u.s. will work together to tone down threats from north korea. >>> former prime minister margaret thatcher's daughter is talking about her grief over losing her mother and thanking well-wishers saying, it's been a tough and tearful week, even for the daughter of the iron lady, end quote. thatcher will be buried wednesday with full military honors. meanwhile, anti-thatcher groups gathered together in central london to, as they put it, celebrate the former prime...
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this is a huge opening believe me with china. because our interests in the first time in a long while are aligned. we both want to get something done and bring the level of tension down on the korean peninsula. >> former ambassador jon huntsman, thanks for your expertise. >> thanks, candy. >> when we return, inching closer to a deal on immigration reform with two of the house architects and one was willing to risk jail to protect the rights of immigrants. >>> and hillary clinton emerges with plans for a new book just in time for a residential run. tdd: 1-800-345-2550 searching for a bank designed for investors like you? tdd: 1-800-345-2550 schwab bank was built with tdd: 1-800-345-2550 all the value and convenience investors want. tdd: 1-800-345-2550 like no atm fees, worldwide. tdd: 1-800-345-2550 and no nuisance fees. tdd: 1-800-345-2550 plus deposit checks with mobile deposit, tdd: 1-800-345-2550 and manage your cash and investments tdd: 1-800-345-2550 with schwab's mobile app. tdd: 1-800-345-2550 no wonder schwab bank has gro
this is a huge opening believe me with china. because our interests in the first time in a long while are aligned. we both want to get something done and bring the level of tension down on the korean peninsula. >> former ambassador jon huntsman, thanks for your expertise. >> thanks, candy. >> when we return, inching closer to a deal on immigration reform with two of the house architects and one was willing to risk jail to protect the rights of immigrants. >>> and...
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can cut the dweel china. hae he has a lot of credibility with china. >> reporter: trade with china is booming from $1 billion a few years ago to $5 billion now. if you account for the weapons and minerals, how else is he getting money? >> he's getting it through illicit transactions. >> reporter: officials say north korea is exporting illegal drugs like meth, producing knockoffs of popular cigarettes and pharmaceutical drugs, even counterfeiting good old ben franklin. the fact that u.s. officials say the illicit stuff is still pretty small scale. the north gets a bit more from tourism and foreign investment from places like south korea and china. but, wolf, he says in a country that doesn't get any taxes from its citizens and really is not connected to the international world trading market, it is the minerals and the weapons that are the cash cows keeping kim in power. >> they have global sanctions against him from the u.s. security council but he's getting cash that he needs. chris lawrence, good report. th
can cut the dweel china. hae he has a lot of credibility with china. >> reporter: trade with china is booming from $1 billion a few years ago to $5 billion now. if you account for the weapons and minerals, how else is he getting money? >> he's getting it through illicit transactions. >> reporter: officials say north korea is exporting illegal drugs like meth, producing knockoffs of popular cigarettes and pharmaceutical drugs, even counterfeiting good old ben franklin. the fact...
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humans in february in china. if you're wondering how the viruses get these names that make them sound scarier, the h and n refer to protein on the flu virus and the numbers to the shapes. two science lessons at the end of one show. thanks for being part of my program this week. i'll see you next week. >>> welcome to the "cnn newsroom." i'm fredricka whitfield. the stories topping the news. a young american diplomat is dead in an aattack on a u.s. convoy in southern afghanistan. a civilian and three u.s. service members were also killed. we'll have detailed. and north korea could be days away from testing a missile. tensions are so high on the korean puninls law it's creating a ripple effect. a u.s. missile test is being delayed so as not to send conflicting messages to north korea. and the family of megachurch pastor rick warren is in mourning following the suicide of his 27-year-old son. matthew warren battled mental illness all of his life. coming upering we'll go live to warren's church in southern california
humans in february in china. if you're wondering how the viruses get these names that make them sound scarier, the h and n refer to protein on the flu virus and the numbers to the shapes. two science lessons at the end of one show. thanks for being part of my program this week. i'll see you next week. >>> welcome to the "cnn newsroom." i'm fredricka whitfield. the stories topping the news. a young american diplomat is dead in an aattack on a u.s. convoy in southern...
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right now to china. i've spoken to you as officials whose job it is to deal with this, and they are hoping beyond hope, fingers crossed, that china will use its leverage to bring kim jong-un into control and into line. and also, china has been saying they're very troubled by this. they regret various moves. but you know, what are they going to do? >> is the u.s. outsourcing its diplomacy to china? >> yes. >> it is the chinese -- >> that's not true. the chinese is the super power of the world. >> christiane, we could nuke them. >> no, there's diplomacy. nobody's going to nuke anybody. >> guff me a second. they are one of the most isolated countries in the world. you talk about understanding them. because we -- >> not understanding. i'm talking about engagement and diplomacy. >> the chinese speak the language and they are the same people. they are more baffled by the north koreans than we are. the reason this regime is difficult to understand is it is a brutal dictatorship. it has starved 2 million of its
right now to china. i've spoken to you as officials whose job it is to deal with this, and they are hoping beyond hope, fingers crossed, that china will use its leverage to bring kim jong-un into control and into line. and also, china has been saying they're very troubled by this. they regret various moves. but you know, what are they going to do? >> is the u.s. outsourcing its diplomacy to china? >> yes. >> it is the chinese -- >> that's not true. the chinese is the...
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addicts in china. and anger from chinese officials. maybe the only true friends north korea has left. i called the north korean mission at the u.n. for response to our report. an official there said, quote, smuggling has nothing to do with us, what is that? and then he hung up on me. iranian official also at the u.n. did not respond to the reporting that their country is a major client for north korean missiles. wolf? >> brian will have more on that story coming up. thanks very, very much. >>> a nuclear nightmare scenario. the why the u.s. believes right now, north korea and iran may be working together on weapons. welcnew york state, where cutting taxes for families and businesses is our business. we've reduced taxes and lowered costs to save businesses more than two billion dollars to grow jobs, cut middle class income taxes to the lowest rate in sixty years, and we're creating tax free zones for business startups. the new new york is working creating tens of thousands of new businesses, and we're ju
addicts in china. and anger from chinese officials. maybe the only true friends north korea has left. i called the north korean mission at the u.n. for response to our report. an official there said, quote, smuggling has nothing to do with us, what is that? and then he hung up on me. iranian official also at the u.n. did not respond to the reporting that their country is a major client for north korean missiles. wolf? >> brian will have more on that story coming up. thanks very, very...
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grab a summer shandy and join us out here. >>> a powerful earthquake struck china on friday. ed mckenzie has the latest for us from the center of the quake zone. and is this still considered a search and rescue operation? give us some sense of the response. >> reporter: well, they're holding out hope, but certainly that window to rescue people is rapidly closing. this earthquake struck at 8:00 a.m. local time on saturday, shook houses, destroyed homes, and frightened people. i want to show you the gaul residence, this family was living in this two-story home when the quake struck and the windows and walls were blown out. they trieded to escape, all six of them. but the grandfather didn't make it. they just buried him earlier today. but certainly families in this area are bearing the brunt of this earthquake both from a personal point of view and their livelihoods, people are living outside, living in tents, trying to make due. food, water and shelter are the three things that the red cross says are needed immediately. and we have seen a large volunteer response. >> according
grab a summer shandy and join us out here. >>> a powerful earthquake struck china on friday. ed mckenzie has the latest for us from the center of the quake zone. and is this still considered a search and rescue operation? give us some sense of the response. >> reporter: well, they're holding out hope, but certainly that window to rescue people is rapidly closing. this earthquake struck at 8:00 a.m. local time on saturday, shook houses, destroyed homes, and frightened people. i...
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the key may be china, wolf, with china having a lot of influence over pyongyang as they could literally close the tap, the fuel and food taps and even the conventional military ties between the two countries. a lot of frustration here in beijing with north korea in recent months particularly with the missile strike. that missile test and nuclear test. their frustrations might be boiling over and they could be pushing for north korea to get to the negotiating table. wolf? >> david mckenzie in beijing for us, thank you. i was in north korea just two years ago. stand by for a rare look. >>> plus, we'll assess the impact of dennis rodman's improbable visit with the north korean leader. [ male announcer ] shaq versus pain. shaq 1, pain 0. [ male announcer ] new icy hot advanced patch with 50% more medicine. pain over. >>> for all of north korea's threats and the military power, its people don't have much. they live under a very difficult conditions. i got a rare look inside the secretive nation when i travelled there at the end of 2010. well, thank you so much. during my six days at north ko
the key may be china, wolf, with china having a lot of influence over pyongyang as they could literally close the tap, the fuel and food taps and even the conventional military ties between the two countries. a lot of frustration here in beijing with north korea in recent months particularly with the missile strike. that missile test and nuclear test. their frustrations might be boiling over and they could be pushing for north korea to get to the negotiating table. wolf? >> david mckenzie...
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cha, talk to me about china and what we know. from what i have read, they have had little effect on north korea's behavior. they asked them not do a missile test and we do not know the new president in china actually even knows the north korean president. how much affect can they have? >> the idea of china playing a big role has always been based on the idea that they are the ones giving the aid and assistance to north korea right now. nobody else in the world is. we hope the north koreans will do something horrible enough that it will cross the chinese red line. mike and i were in government when north korea did the first nuclear test in 2006 and we thought at that point the chinese had it with north korea. they stay angry two or three weeks and go back to the same old stuff. kerry's visit there and the proclamations how we are in tight with the chinese, i'd rather not see the big statements and see real, deep, strategic cooperations than big statements and to have tactical con strive cooperation. that is what we have had in the
cha, talk to me about china and what we know. from what i have read, they have had little effect on north korea's behavior. they asked them not do a missile test and we do not know the new president in china actually even knows the north korean president. how much affect can they have? >> the idea of china playing a big role has always been based on the idea that they are the ones giving the aid and assistance to north korea right now. nobody else in the world is. we hope the north...
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this is a dynamic for china. the north koreas act up, we send secretary of treasury jack lew, you know we sort of feel behold tant to china and -- yo actually think the chinese have changed their position. if you look at the statements, those are the statements we heard a decade ago. indeed if there is anything new, it was really to criticize washington than -- i don't think there is a -- >> we're going to need you if there is a missile. keep your cell phone on. >> incredible video to show you, it shows a plane with a huge crack tloeth in the ocean. amazingly everyone on board survived. the lion airplane oefrd e overshot a run way and slam sbood the water. the passengers an crew stood on a woeng and everyone got out. no serious injuries reported so far. >> reporter: what we're told at the airport is shortly after 3:30 p.m. local time this incoming lion air overshot the run way and lapded in the indian ocean and split in half. amaidsingly they were able to get everyone out of the plane. people jumping out of the p
this is a dynamic for china. the north koreas act up, we send secretary of treasury jack lew, you know we sort of feel behold tant to china and -- yo actually think the chinese have changed their position. if you look at the statements, those are the statements we heard a decade ago. indeed if there is anything new, it was really to criticize washington than -- i don't think there is a -- >> we're going to need you if there is a missile. keep your cell phone on. >> incredible video...
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another friend of china, co-op perfect ra igs agreement with china is the u.s. if the u.s. believes this is important and they can apply enough pressure on china behind the scenes, that pressure from the u.s. could get it to push north korea to end this rhetoric. really, china doesn't see much threat from north korea. if they see it, they see a long-term threat, nothing in the immediate future. >>> we asked online if north korea launches a test missile, how should the u.s. respond. bob on facebook says we need to show force and show them that we are not playing around with them. a different viewpoint from tyler on twitter. keep a cool head and a steady hand.
another friend of china, co-op perfect ra igs agreement with china is the u.s. if the u.s. believes this is important and they can apply enough pressure on china behind the scenes, that pressure from the u.s. could get it to push north korea to end this rhetoric. really, china doesn't see much threat from north korea. if they see it, they see a long-term threat, nothing in the immediate future. >>> we asked online if north korea launches a test missile, how should the u.s. respond. bob...
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the film's undead epidemic originated in china. but that plot point had to be changed, because as we all know now, china is where american blockbusters are coming back to life. you can catch "ironman 3" in theaters may 3er. jake tapper, cnn, washington. >> i guess we'll go see about t. >> catch up on the or two first. >>> superstar in soccer, david beckham, he's going to talk to cnn next. >>> and of course he's talking about things like being a parent, why he lets his kids do 99% of what they want to do. not my family. >> not mine either. i wonder if posh makes them. c >>> japanese airline a&a is training its pilots to resume flying a boeing dreamliner. >> this comes after batteries, remember that, overheating on an a&a back in january and also overheated on a japan airlines jet. >> all 50 dreamliners were grounded. halfway through the test, it hopes to begin flights again in just a couple of weeks. >>> now as with many sports, soccer has had its issues when it comes to scoring. did the ball cross the line? was the ref wrong? of c
the film's undead epidemic originated in china. but that plot point had to be changed, because as we all know now, china is where american blockbusters are coming back to life. you can catch "ironman 3" in theaters may 3er. jake tapper, cnn, washington. >> i guess we'll go see about t. >> catch up on the or two first. >>> superstar in soccer, david beckham, he's going to talk to cnn next. >>> and of course he's talking about things like being a parent,...
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china deserves most of the credit and thanks to the communist party of china, we now know that the path to poverty is capitalist led growth. >>> up next, how technology can detect terrorist. google executive chairman back from north korea and myanmar joins me. man: how did i get here? dumb luck? or good decisions? ones i've made. ones we've all made. about marriage. children. money. about tomorrow. here's to good decisions. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. ready to plan for your family's future? we'll help you get there. there's a reason no one says "easy like monday morning." sundays are the warrior's day to unplug and recharge. what if this feeling could last all week? with centurylink as your trusted partner, it can. our visionary cloud infrastructure and global broadband network free you to focus on what matters. with custom communications solutions and dedicated support, your business can shine all week long. >>> i'm candy crowley a in washington with a check of the headlines. in boston today
china deserves most of the credit and thanks to the communist party of china, we now know that the path to poverty is capitalist led growth. >>> up next, how technology can detect terrorist. google executive chairman back from north korea and myanmar joins me. man: how did i get here? dumb luck? or good decisions? ones i've made. ones we've all made. about marriage. children. money. about tomorrow. here's to good decisions. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual...
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another friend of china or cooperation agreement with china is obviously the u.s. the huge trading partner. so if the u.s. believes this is important and they can apply enough pressure on china behind the scenes, that pressure from the u.s. towards china could get it to push north korea to end this rhetoric. but really china doesn't see much threat of north korea right now. if they do, they see a long-term threat and nothing in the immediate future. wolf? >> we'll stay in close touch with you. we asked online if north korea launches a test missile how should the u.s. respond? here's responses. bob on facebook says, we nd
another friend of china or cooperation agreement with china is obviously the u.s. the huge trading partner. so if the u.s. believes this is important and they can apply enough pressure on china behind the scenes, that pressure from the u.s. towards china could get it to push north korea to end this rhetoric. but really china doesn't see much threat of north korea right now. if they do, they see a long-term threat and nothing in the immediate future. wolf? >> we'll stay in close touch with...
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an american superhero now made in china for china. iron man 3 gets a far east remix as hollywood butters up to its global audience. >>> the politics lead. there's a deal. or there isn't a deal. the gang of 8 reportedly has a draft for the immigration reform bill, but one important political power player in the group is saying not so fast. senator marco rubio's office released a statement easter morning saying reports that the bipartisan group of eight senators have agreed on a legislative proposal are premature. so why is rubio hitting the brakes? here to talk about it, jackie kucinich for "usa today," emily miller from the "washington times" and democratic strategist morris reed. we know bringing in new latina voters is critical to the republicans' plan for victory so why is rubio slowing things down, emily/. >> conservatives hear "a.m. nesty" and they panic. the first thing everyone says is, secure the bodier, and no one has shown how we're securing the bored he. all this talk about how people are coming with visas, it's way prematu
an american superhero now made in china for china. iron man 3 gets a far east remix as hollywood butters up to its global audience. >>> the politics lead. there's a deal. or there isn't a deal. the gang of 8 reportedly has a draft for the immigration reform bill, but one important political power player in the group is saying not so fast. senator marco rubio's office released a statement easter morning saying reports that the bipartisan group of eight senators have agreed on a...
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another friend of china or cooperation agreement with china is obviously the u.s. the huge trading partner. so if the u.s. believes this is important and they can apply enough pressure on china behind the scenes, that pressure from the u.s. towards china could get it to push north korea to end this rhetoric. but really china doesn't see much threat of north korea right now. if they do, they see a long-term threat and nothing in the immediate future. wolf? >> we'll stay in close touch with you. we asked online if north korea launches a test missile how should the u.s. respond? here's responses. bob on facebook says, we need to show force and show them that we are not playing around
another friend of china or cooperation agreement with china is obviously the u.s. the huge trading partner. so if the u.s. believes this is important and they can apply enough pressure on china behind the scenes, that pressure from the u.s. towards china could get it to push north korea to end this rhetoric. but really china doesn't see much threat of north korea right now. if they do, they see a long-term threat and nothing in the immediate future. wolf? >> we'll stay in close touch with...
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this is a huge opening believe me with china. because our interests in the first time in a long while are aligned. we both want to get something done and bring the level of tension down on the korean peninsula. >> former ambassador jon huntsman, thanks for your expertise. >> thanks, candy. >> when we return, inching closer to a deal on immigration reform with two of the house architects and one was willing to risk jail to protect the rights of immigrants. >>> and hillary clinton emerges in time with a new book in time for a presidential run. ixed? progressive makes it easy, because we give you choices. you can pick where to get your car fixed, we can cut you a check, or, at our service center, we take care of everything for you. [ relaxing music playing ] [ chuckles ] -whew, so many choices. -take your time. -the service center. -okay. giving you choices -- now, that's progressive. call or click today. >>> an update from the front burner. for an issue everyone thinks will be resolved this year, immigration reform has proven illus
this is a huge opening believe me with china. because our interests in the first time in a long while are aligned. we both want to get something done and bring the level of tension down on the korean peninsula. >> former ambassador jon huntsman, thanks for your expertise. >> thanks, candy. >> when we return, inching closer to a deal on immigration reform with two of the house architects and one was willing to risk jail to protect the rights of immigrants. >>> and...
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>> and what did china do in response? nothing. so what china needs to do is start squeezing their economy. without china their economy would collapse in a relatively short period of time. and china has got to start stepping up whether it be on cyber security or we've identified a building in beijing where these attacks come from or whether it be in the south china sea where they are confrontational or whether it be in the united nations where they along with russia veto efforts to reign-in bashar al assad. it's time now for china to step up. >> let me ask you there was quite the to-do this week when at least a portion of what we thought was -- which we know was a defense intelligence assessment congressman doug lambeau in colorado read it. he thought it was unclassified, it was, but apparently was not supposed to have been. makes you a little worried. and part of this was -- part of the quote was the dia assesses with moderate confidence, the north currently has weapons capable of delivering by ballistic missiles, however the reli
>> and what did china do in response? nothing. so what china needs to do is start squeezing their economy. without china their economy would collapse in a relatively short period of time. and china has got to start stepping up whether it be on cyber security or we've identified a building in beijing where these attacks come from or whether it be in the south china sea where they are confrontational or whether it be in the united nations where they along with russia veto efforts to...
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addicts in china. and anger from chinese officials. maybe the only true friends north korea has left. i called the north korean mission at the u.n. for response to our report. an official there said, quote, smuggling has nothing to do with us, what is that? and then he hung up on me. iranian official also at the u.n. did not respond to the reporting that their country is a major client for north korean missiles. wolf? >> brian will have more on that story coming up. thanks very, very much. >>> a nuclear nightmare scenario. the why the u.s. believes right now, north korea and iran may be working together on weapons. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set m
addicts in china. and anger from chinese officials. maybe the only true friends north korea has left. i called the north korean mission at the u.n. for response to our report. an official there said, quote, smuggling has nothing to do with us, what is that? and then he hung up on me. iranian official also at the u.n. did not respond to the reporting that their country is a major client for north korean missiles. wolf? >> brian will have more on that story coming up. thanks very, very...
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china is split on the subject. those in china who feel they don't want to push them and then there are others who would like to be rid of them. but, clearly, china has moved somewhat in recent weeks. they are clearly getting a little tired of the north koreans and i think that's why it's been important for the u.s. to kind of keep our own rhetoric at a lower level and try to work with the chinese and explore ways that china can be helpful in bringing the north koreans back from the brink. i doubt that we're going to be able to get any nuclear talks started any time soon, but at least we can kind of get through this, this crisis of the last few weeks. >> now, coming up, notes from history. personal letters written from everyone from marilyn monroe to john lennon are hitting the auction block. we'll give you an inside look at some of these handwritten slices of the past. by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campb
china is split on the subject. those in china who feel they don't want to push them and then there are others who would like to be rid of them. but, clearly, china has moved somewhat in recent weeks. they are clearly getting a little tired of the north koreans and i think that's why it's been important for the u.s. to kind of keep our own rhetoric at a lower level and try to work with the chinese and explore ways that china can be helpful in bringing the north koreans back from the brink. i...
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the key may be china, wolf, with china having a lot of influence over pyongyang. they could close the fuel taps and conventional military ties between the two countries. a lot of frustration here in beijing, with north korea, though, in recent months, particularly with the missile test, and nuclear test. their frustrations might be boiling over and they could be pushing for north korea to get to the negotiating table. wolf is this. >> david mckenzie in beijing for us, watching it very closely. thank you. >>> i was in north korea just two years ago. stand by for a rare look. >>> plus, we're going to assess the impact of dennis rodman's improbable visit with the north korean leader. ere a vampire. but he's not. ♪ he's an architect with two kids and a mortgage. luckily, he found someone who gave him a fresh perspective on his portfolio. and with some planning and effort, hopefully bob can retire at a more appropriate age. it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. would absolutely not have taken a zip line in the jungle. i'm really glad th
the key may be china, wolf, with china having a lot of influence over pyongyang. they could close the fuel taps and conventional military ties between the two countries. a lot of frustration here in beijing, with north korea, though, in recent months, particularly with the missile test, and nuclear test. their frustrations might be boiling over and they could be pushing for north korea to get to the negotiating table. wolf is this. >> david mckenzie in beijing for us, watching it very...
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the second track is with china. china may deny they have a lot of leverage with the north koreans, but they do. and there's a lot more that they can do. a third possible track might be with the north koreans. but they kind of started this dance. i'm not sure it would be in our interest to be kind of approaching them. i think you would leave in your mind that we're worried or afraid or somehow blinking. i think we need to be very careful how we will deal with the north koreans. i would rather see much more of an effort with china. >> tommy vietor, you know that back when he was a candidate in 2007, 2008, president obama at that point made it clear. he's willing to talk to these kind of despots without preconditions. dennis rodman came back from north korea saying, call him, kim jong-un. do you think that's the president would each consider? >> huge thank you to dennis rodman for delivering that message. i think the president has expressed a willingness to have direct conversations with north korea. but those need to
the second track is with china. china may deny they have a lot of leverage with the north koreans, but they do. and there's a lot more that they can do. a third possible track might be with the north koreans. but they kind of started this dance. i'm not sure it would be in our interest to be kind of approaching them. i think you would leave in your mind that we're worried or afraid or somehow blinking. i think we need to be very careful how we will deal with the north koreans. i would rather...
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next week he's in london, south korea, japan and china. >>> in china an outbreak in bird flu in people has led to the slaughter of 20,000 chickens, ducks, geese and pigeons. six of those people are died. they're trying to find the source of the infections. >>> how far will snort korea go this time. that that's the big question that everyone from the pentagon to seoul is asking. here to talk about that is gordan change. hey is the column nis. he knows a lot about this particular subject. he joins me from new york. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> you know, it sound like a cliche but we have seen this rattling over and over again, blustering. the is there a reason to think it's any different. >> i think that it's different. in the past the north koreans have thrown a tantrum when the u.s. and south korea started their drills. this time the threats became more dire and i think it's because jim young unhas yet to consolidate his position. at no time since 1949 has a north korean leader had a smaller base of support than he does today. that's why we're sealing all of these threats on
next week he's in london, south korea, japan and china. >>> in china an outbreak in bird flu in people has led to the slaughter of 20,000 chickens, ducks, geese and pigeons. six of those people are died. they're trying to find the source of the infections. >>> how far will snort korea go this time. that that's the big question that everyone from the pentagon to seoul is asking. here to talk about that is gordan change. hey is the column nis. he knows a lot about this...
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and what will that look like for china? millions of refugees streaming across the north korean border into china. more importantly, a korea that's unified but unified in the german style, on the south korean nation's terms which would mean a pro-america country with 30,000 american troops and by the way, ten nuclear bombs, as richard pointed out, all that on china's border. they look at all that and say we're not ready to do anything to make the north korea regime collapse and that's fundamentally what keeps this country alive. because absent china's help, it seems pretty clear that in 2013, a dictatorship like north korea that managed to starve two million of its own people and survive simply could not survive any longer. >> doug brinkley, is the president doing enough, is he doing the right kind of things with north korea? >> well, i think we need to do more to help japan right now and have a new american military strategy and we have asked japan to demilitarize. they're our great ally. cnn does a lot of stories about the
and what will that look like for china? millions of refugees streaming across the north korean border into china. more importantly, a korea that's unified but unified in the german style, on the south korean nation's terms which would mean a pro-america country with 30,000 american troops and by the way, ten nuclear bombs, as richard pointed out, all that on china's border. they look at all that and say we're not ready to do anything to make the north korea regime collapse and that's...
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global poverty is falling but china deserves most of credit and thanks to the communist party of china we know the path to poverty and alleviation is capitalist-led growth. >>> up next, how technology can detect terrorists and defeat repressive regimes. google's executive chairman, back from north korean and myanmar joins me. [ female announcer ] the only patch for the treatment of mild to moderate alzheimer's disease is exelon patch. now with more treatment options, exelon patch may improve overall function and cognition. your loved one can get a free 30-day trial. and you can have access to nurses. it does not change how the disease progresses. hospitalization, and rarely death, have been reported from wearing more than one patch at a time. the most common side effects are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, fall, loss of appetite or weight, application site redness, and urinary tract infection. the likelihood and severity of these side effects may increase as the dose increases or if patients weigh less than 110 pounds. people at risk for stomach ulcers who take certain other medicines shou
global poverty is falling but china deserves most of credit and thanks to the communist party of china we know the path to poverty and alleviation is capitalist-led growth. >>> up next, how technology can detect terrorists and defeat repressive regimes. google's executive chairman, back from north korean and myanmar joins me. [ female announcer ] the only patch for the treatment of mild to moderate alzheimer's disease is exelon patch. now with more treatment options, exelon patch may...
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that's not in china's interest. so i think they're trying to balance their interests and long standing interest with the north koreans. on the other hand, seeing that allowing this young leader -- we don't know whether he's 28, 29 or 30, but clearly he's immature because he has climbed a rhetorical tree and not allowed himself any branches or many to step down onto get out of the tree that he's on right now. so hopefully they'll persuade him to exercise some moderation here. >> in fact, how concerned are you about kim jong-un especially given the fact in asian culture there is the saving face and that there's a lot of pressure that he has now presented himself and the rest of the region by offering these threats? is the saving face issue a very big and potentially dangerous one with him? >> obviously it's important to save face. not only for asians, for any country. i think secretary kerry has issued an olive branch of sorts, but it has to be very clear this olive branch is one to help him climb down off this tree.
that's not in china's interest. so i think they're trying to balance their interests and long standing interest with the north koreans. on the other hand, seeing that allowing this young leader -- we don't know whether he's 28, 29 or 30, but clearly he's immature because he has climbed a rhetorical tree and not allowed himself any branches or many to step down onto get out of the tree that he's on right now. so hopefully they'll persuade him to exercise some moderation here. >> in fact,...
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japan wanting in, china escalating. so that's a big concern here in south korea right now. >> congressman, so is your understanding of this that the d.i.a. believes that the north koreans could launch some sort of a weapon against a south korea that has a nuclear device on it? they could currently do that? it wouldn't be accurate but they could do it? >> yeah. yeah, the reliability is low. they could launch but who knows where it would end up exactly. they have, according to d.i.a., and i'm just repeating what they have said, there is some confidence that they can put the nuclear weapon on a missile and make it deliverable, and that is something that we've suspected, but this puts it out there in black and white. >> all right. congressman lamborn, appreciate you being on. general james "spider" marks, barbara starr, kyung lah. let us know what you think about this. >>> we have more on the breaking news coming up. we'll dig into how to defuse this crisis. joined by christiane amanpour who spent time in the north. and for
japan wanting in, china escalating. so that's a big concern here in south korea right now. >> congressman, so is your understanding of this that the d.i.a. believes that the north koreans could launch some sort of a weapon against a south korea that has a nuclear device on it? they could currently do that? it wouldn't be accurate but they could do it? >> yeah. yeah, the reliability is low. they could launch but who knows where it would end up exactly. they have, according to d.i.a.,...
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when europe slows down, when china slows down, there is no question about it. that has a negative impact on american economic growth and the question is as europe is virtually in recession rights now makes it very difficult for the u.s. economy to grow. that's why i am with robert reisch. this is very rare by the way that i think the next couple quarters could be stuff sledding. >> i think the sky may have fallen. i will revise my earlier statement and take with great trepidation one agrees with the other and the other agrees with the other. love it. i love consensus. gentlemen, thank you so much. nice to see you. have a great weekend, guys. good news. go back to the usual misery of flying. >> we'll all pay the price. what can you do? you grin and bear it. >> they need it fix it. i just wanting to home. >> the elected leaders have stepped in to keep air traffic controllers on the job. now can they solve the rest of the forced budget cuts? that's next on "your money." matt's brakes didn't sound right... ...so i brought my car to mike at meineke... ...and we insp
when europe slows down, when china slows down, there is no question about it. that has a negative impact on american economic growth and the question is as europe is virtually in recession rights now makes it very difficult for the u.s. economy to grow. that's why i am with robert reisch. this is very rare by the way that i think the next couple quarters could be stuff sledding. >> i think the sky may have fallen. i will revise my earlier statement and take with great trepidation one...
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around five uninhabited islands that both china and japan lay claim to. a group of activists organized a flotilla of fishing boats out to the islands and the chinese government says after the coast guard ships spotted the flotilla the chinese rushed a number of additional coast guard ships to the area to a total of eight. it's not the first time we've seen these kinds of face-offs takes place around these disputed islands. but the japanese coast guard is saying it's the largest gathering of chinese vessels they have seen in the area in seven months. the japanese government summoned china's ambassador to tokyo to lodge a formal protest and there were tough words of warning for beijing. take a listen. >> translator: the senkaku islands are under our active control. since it has become the abe government we made sure if there is an intrusion into our islands we will deal with it strongly. >> the japanese coast guard issued a warning to the chinese ships basically to back off and the response from the chinese ships was we are in chinese territory. so the disp
around five uninhabited islands that both china and japan lay claim to. a group of activists organized a flotilla of fishing boats out to the islands and the chinese government says after the coast guard ships spotted the flotilla the chinese rushed a number of additional coast guard ships to the area to a total of eight. it's not the first time we've seen these kinds of face-offs takes place around these disputed islands. but the japanese coast guard is saying it's the largest gathering of...
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this might get china's attention. i actually think china is key here. probably half to two-thirds of north korea's trade, travels through china. the last thing china wants is a war on the peninsula, because china knows the next door on the peninsula will be the last war. it will end with the end of north korea. you will have a unified peninsula. this peninsula will have its capital in seoul, part of the american strategic orbit. for china, this means further en circlement, a strategic disaster. the real question is whether china will take this blusteriie seriously and use the leverage it denies it has but in fact it has to get the north koreans to pull back. christian is exactly right and your report from seoul is right. i don't think we're going to see a premeditated attack by the north. i don't believe that for a second. but the chance of some kind of an incident now when both sides are on such alert, so much emotion, so much political attention, any skirmish now could very quickly escalate. there is not even rudimentary crisis control. that's the thi
this might get china's attention. i actually think china is key here. probably half to two-thirds of north korea's trade, travels through china. the last thing china wants is a war on the peninsula, because china knows the next door on the peninsula will be the last war. it will end with the end of north korea. you will have a unified peninsula. this peninsula will have its capital in seoul, part of the american strategic orbit. for china, this means further en circlement, a strategic disaster....
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he's in china meeting with government officials trying to come to an agreement with china about how they they can help quiet the receihetoric coming f kim jong-un. kerry talked about what he hopes to accomplish. >> i brought the president's greetings and hopes that these meetings will do exactly what you described. that we can provide a road map as you talked about, that we can raise the dialogue to a higher level and over the course of these next hours we have an opportunity to do that. >> joining me now from seoul, south korea, annie, what kind of clout does china care in this flare-up? >> reporter: that's a really good point, alison. we've been here before with the hearts of the world on china and can use leverage over north korea. china has said in recent days and weeks that they are fed up with rhetoric and threats coming out of pyongyang and no one country should have the power to influence affairs in the region if you like. the problem is china is north korea's only friend and ally in the region. it provides food, fuel and aid. while it has backed these u.n. sanctions against nort
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allies, china and japan, this weekend. the north's neighbors are urging the country to stop the provocations. athena jones is live for us now from washington. what are some of the key points coming out of kerry's trip so far? >> reporter: good afternoon, fredricka. the key point here is that everyone that secretary kerry has spoken with and met with during these last few days -- the south koreans, the chinese, the japanese -- everyone wants to see this situation with new york resolved peacefully. let's listen to a little bit of what secretary kerry had to say upon arriving in japan. >> i think we have to be careful and thoughtful and, frankly, not lay out publicly all the options but work privately and quietly at the highest levels of government in order to try to take steps to bring about a peaceful resolution. and i want to emphasize to everybody that that is the outcome that we want. >> reporter: secretary kerry has said that everything is still on the table but what they want to see is a peaceful outcome and that the u
allies, china and japan, this weekend. the north's neighbors are urging the country to stop the provocations. athena jones is live for us now from washington. what are some of the key points coming out of kerry's trip so far? >> reporter: good afternoon, fredricka. the key point here is that everyone that secretary kerry has spoken with and met with during these last few days -- the south koreans, the chinese, the japanese -- everyone wants to see this situation with new york resolved...
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china is really concerned about the u.s. exerting its influence in asia over the last couple years but i think it reflects a growing frustration on the rt pa of the chinese. they're north korea's biggest economic and diplomatic backer and they really don't seem to have a lot of influence on north korea at this time. we understand there is little communication between north korea and china and i think there is a growing debate right now officials and experts are pointing to in china about whether it is time to abandon its unequivocal support for north korea that perhaps this unabashed support for north korea is ant thet call to its interesting. >> elise, thanks so much from washington. >>> in texas now police are taking every threat seriously following the killings of two state prosecutors and the wife of one. someone called in a bomb threat the night before hundreds gathered for a funeral of mike mclelland and his wife cynthia. so far police arrested two men for threatening public officials. martin savage is in texas followi
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this is a human tragedy in china. but the government response has been swift and does seem to be working in most parts. there's been a large number of soldiers coming out to the region, red cross officials, food and water given out. but because of the difficulty of this terrain, it's mountainous and some villages can only be reached by foot right now. it has been difficult to assess the level of damage. >> when we spoke last hour you were telling us that government authorities still considering this a search and rescue operation, though the window is closing on that phase. do we have an estimate right now as to how many people may still be missing? >> well, as of last night local time, around 24 people were missing. now, the fear is they might be dead, but it's unclear at this stage. we are awaiting more information from the government in the coming hour. the reality is that that window is closing or if it hasn't closed already people are not able to survive under rubble without food or water or assistance for this am
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the question is is china going to do what the u.s. asks which is crack down on north korea, really get tough and stop the illicit flow of weapons and money it is helping fuel the nuclear program and get north korea to back down from all of these threats and get back to the table? in the past china said all the right things, hasn't really acted. maybe this time will be different. >> what does the white house saying about any possible ballistic missile tests from north korea? >> well, you saw in the last couple of days there was a report from the defense intelligence agency saying maybe north korea had a nuclear weapon that could possibly reach the united states, but not so sure about the reliability. the white house, the director of national intelligence, john kerry, all pouring a little bit of water on that report saying they do not believe that north korea has a ballistic missile that could be mated with a nuclear warhead that could be fired towards the united states. they are making a lot of progress in all areas of the nuclear prog
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north korea gets its food by fuel to china. keeping the border seal would north korea, it basically reinforces the camp. ann applebaum had a post, you open up the border to north korea, just like opening the border to east germany. >> but, of course, that's why the chinese know that. and the south koreans know, in a weird sense, nobody wants north korea to collapse. >> one thing from the chinese, they love north korea so much, they want them to be two of them. that's what they said about germany. until they get out of that mode, i don't see what is going to change. >> if you with are in the security council, it looks like everything tom and i are saying is probably true. but don't you have to plan for the prospect that they might actually launch one of these missiles and they probably can't get to the u.s. or get to guam or something like that, or japan? what do you do? >> you plan for it.
north korea gets its food by fuel to china. keeping the border seal would north korea, it basically reinforces the camp. ann applebaum had a post, you open up the border to north korea, just like opening the border to east germany. >> but, of course, that's why the chinese know that. and the south koreans know, in a weird sense, nobody wants north korea to collapse. >> one thing from the chinese, they love north korea so much, they want them to be two of them. that's what they said...
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one option is stopping the flow to money from china to tphrbg. china is north korea's biggest trading partner. >>> did you watch this week the jodi arias trial? there was real fireworks in the courtroom. the prosecutor went after the defense's domestic violence expert. he was able to get the expert to admit the victim in the case, travis alexander actually feared jodi arias. >> isn't it true, mr. alexander, was extremely afraid of the defendant, jodi arias based on her stalking behavior? >> he was afraid of her, yes. >> earlier i asked hln's jane velez-mitchell what she thought in the case. >> that was perhaps her greatest admission. she was talking about a message that travis alex sander saying he was afraid, and she said he could not be that terrified of her because he continued to communicate with her and continued to have sex with jodi arias, and who would have sex with their stalker which is one of the riddles of the case. >> we typically don't see this back and forth, or this type of back and forth between the expert and the attorney like w
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the south china sea. don't want our ships there. don't see any reason for it. so these kinds of provocations by the north actually serve china's interests. i'm not saying they're not ambivalent. they don't want an explosion that would disrupt their economic growth. but insofar as they can point out the u.s. presence is contributing to raising tensions, it's leverage against the united states. insofar as it upsets the south korean public, it undercuts the alliance between the united states and south korea and that works to china's interests in the long term. >> let's take a short break. i want to find out what's going on inside the most isolated country on the planet, north korea, and what we really know about its new leader. [ male announcer] surprise -- you're having triplets. [ babies crying ] surprise -- your house was built on an ancient burial ground. [ ghosts moaning ] surprise -- your car needs a new transmission. [ coyote howls ] how about no more surprises? now you can get all the online trading
the south china sea. don't want our ships there. don't see any reason for it. so these kinds of provocations by the north actually serve china's interests. i'm not saying they're not ambivalent. they don't want an explosion that would disrupt their economic growth. but insofar as they can point out the u.s. presence is contributing to raising tensions, it's leverage against the united states. insofar as it upsets the south korean public, it undercuts the alliance between the united states and...
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china is the key to all of this. china is the north's closest ally and that china is expre expressing in public at an economic forum a thinly veiled criticism of north korea. it is a direct message to pyongyang to dial it down. the question, though, don, is whether or not pyongyang is actually listening. >> kyung lah, thank you very much. >>> straight ahead on cnn, boxing legend mike tyson who has had legal troubles of his own is asking the president to overturn the conviction of another fighter. [now arriving: city hospital] which is why we're proud to help connect our students with leading employers across the nation. [next stop financial center] and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work
china is the key to all of this. china is the north's closest ally and that china is expre expressing in public at an economic forum a thinly veiled criticism of north korea. it is a direct message to pyongyang to dial it down. the question, though, don, is whether or not pyongyang is actually listening. >> kyung lah, thank you very much. >>> straight ahead on cnn, boxing legend mike tyson who has had legal troubles of his own is asking the president to overturn the conviction of...
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these uninhabited islands in the east china sea have been the source of a lot of tension between china and japan in past months where you had, you know, planes and warships putting radar locks on each other and all sorts of accusations. and as you mentioned, cat and mouse games. the latest round taking place this morning as reports of a flotilla of national japanese activists were headed towards these uninhabited islands, and then china announcing that it was russiaing more of its coast guard ships into the area to a total of eight now. now, we've spoken with the japanese coast guard, a public relations officer telling us that japanese coast guard ships warned the chinese ships over the radio to leave the area, and the chinese, according to the japanese coast guard responded by saying no, this is chinese territory. so the dispute over these islands which are even given different names according to japan and china continues. and it really is a source of friction. isha? >> for our viewers watching this here in the united states and around the world, the question is could this lead to a b
these uninhabited islands in the east china sea have been the source of a lot of tension between china and japan in past months where you had, you know, planes and warships putting radar locks on each other and all sorts of accusations. and as you mentioned, cat and mouse games. the latest round taking place this morning as reports of a flotilla of national japanese activists were headed towards these uninhabited islands, and then china announcing that it was russiaing more of its coast guard...
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china's government doesn't consider north korean refugees worthy of asylum. "seoul train" has given the world a rare look inside the live of north koreans. jim butterworth, one of the film makers, joins me now. good to have you back on the program. the fact that north koreans would resort to such drastic measures for their freedom speaks volumes about the desperate situation that they're facing back home. >> definitely. i mean, in this situation, if they're caught and sent back to north korea, they'll face almost certain execution. at worst, they are going to be sent to a labor camp from where they will never emerge. they have a very, very bleak existence. this is why they go to that extreme to try to leave. >> one of the things that stuns me about north korea, i did a piece recently about camp 14 for "60 minutes," that in some camps they have three generations of punishment where they don't just pun shaish a political prisoner they also punish that person's parents and children. they want to wipe out three generations. i want to play another clip from your f
china's government doesn't consider north korean refugees worthy of asylum. "seoul train" has given the world a rare look inside the live of north koreans. jim butterworth, one of the film makers, joins me now. good to have you back on the program. the fact that north koreans would resort to such drastic measures for their freedom speaks volumes about the desperate situation that they're facing back home. >> definitely. i mean, in this situation, if they're caught and sent back...